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Official Discussion - Fighting With My Family [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

Born into a tight-knit wrestling family, Paige and her brother Zak are ecstatic when they get the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to try out for WWE. But when only Paige earns a spot in the competitive training program, she must leave her family and face this new, cut-throat world alone. Paige's journey pushes her to dig deep, fight for her family, and ultimately prove to the world that what makes her different is the very thing that can make her a star. Based on a true friendship.

Director:

Stephen Merchant

Writers:

screenplay by Stephen Merchant

Cast:

  • Florence Pugh as Saraya "Paige" Bevis

  • Tessa Blanchard as Paige (Wrestling Scenes)

  • Jack Lowden as Zak "Zodiac" Bevis

  • Nick Frost as Patrick "Rowdy Ricky Knight" Bevis

  • Lena Headey as Julia "Sweet Saraya" Bevis

  • Vince Vaughn as Hutch Morgan

  • Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as himself

  • James Burrows as Roy Knight

  • Zelina Vega as AJ Lee

  • Paul "Big Show" Wight as himself

  • Kim Matula as Jeri-Lynn

  • Aqueela Zoll as Kirsten

  • Ellie Gonsalves as Maddison

  • Stephen Merchant as Hugh

  • Tori Ellen Ross as Young Paige


Rotten Tomatoes: 88%

Metacritic: 68/100

After Credits Scene? No


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level 1

Clever writing? Are you guys on crack?

I was expecting so much more from Merchant writing but this was just bafflingly bad. The movie didn't even know the tone of his own media and kept switching cluelessly.

They established the fact that being a good wrestler is about teaming up with your partner and communicate but then the ending is about a real opportunity out of nowhere like a Cinderella story has a real fight. So what was the whole point of the movie?

How can we sympathetize with such dispacable and dumb characters when there's not even a real redemption arc but just cool training montage.

Felt like a telefilm parody about wrestling.

level 1

I thought it was a really good movie. I never watched WWE, so I can't comment on the theme, but I thought the acting was good and enjoyed watching it.

level 1

I watched some of the "real" Paige's videos on youtube and apparently Dwayne Johnson has been planning this movie for a while now. He had told her that she was going to win the championship and be in his movie all in the span of 10 minutes in his dressing room just like in the movie.

Maybe he read her profile at the tryouts and it became his idea of a movie that was sort of like his own life. Is there any possibility that Paige got picked and kept in NXT and winning the Divas so that she could be the star in this movie. Is that reading too much into and sounds too much like a conspiracy?

level 1

Movie was standard WWE studios crap

level 1

Paige (Britney) is a protagonist that is impossible to root for. I don't care about her so-called redemption at the end of the movie - she sucks. What makes her likable? Oh right... she goes back to brunette and actually "flips the tire" and "motivates" others to do the same. Her story makes her seem like a stuck up asshole. She's superficial and cruel to her competitors because they didn't wrestle their family members growing up. FUCK PAIGE.

level 1

This movie had the same problems as Bohemian Rhapsody, in that it was basically a movie based on the subject's wikipedia page.

The performances from all the actors were very strong, which makes it a shame that most of the plot was very expedited and glossed over. They deserved a better story progression then what they ended up with.

All in all it was pretty much what you'd expect from a movie like this.

Also, the discrepancy between the look of Paige and the girls that were supposed to be Alexa Bliss and Summer Rae was just ridiculous. Paige looked literally like an awkward teenager next to supermodels. Even in her NXT days Paige was already quite the dime piece.

level 2

Who was the third girl an analog for? Alexa was obvious, Summer makes sense now but the other one is embarrassingly escaping me.

level 3

Yeah for the life of me i can't place the attire.

level 1
1 point · 1 month ago

A great film with compelling characters and a good mix of comedic/serious moments. The entire cast does an exceptional job especially Florence Pugh.

I really enjoyed it.

8/10.

level 1

Finally got around to watching this in theaters. I thought it was going to be a bad family drama because of the trailer. Was pleasantly surprised that was not the case.

I liked it. Florence Pugh really carried this film, but the whole cast did wonderful. It was surprisingly funny, and I really liked Dwayne Johnson's Vin Diesel jab. The sibling relationship at the heart of this film was adorable.

I do wish it were a little longer, though. It felt rushed towards the end. I’m not a wrestling fan at all, but I’d have liked to see her in the ring a little more. It also had a few on-the-nose monologues and situations that were a little overdone, but that’s typical for these kinds of films. 7/10.

level 2

Yeah I just watched it with only knowing that it starred the rock and so I assumed it would be just an ‘easy watch’ the rock film but yh I was also pleasantly suprised, wrestling as a genre/topic felt unique and interesting for some reason

level 1

The acting was good and everyone comitted to their roles. It was pretty generic from a story point of view though. I liked it a bit more than I would've otherwise because I'm a WWE fan.

Definitely could've used a Vince McMahon cameo somewhere, though.

level 2

I really thought that was coming when she got the call up to the office. It was still a good scene though.

level 1

The biggest flaw with the movie, in my opinion, was the quick run-up to WWE champion.

She gets like two appearances in the ring with NXT, one of which she was awful, the other focused on the relationship with the other girls.

Then she's in the ring at RAW and she's completely starstruck, unable to say anything prior to AJ attacking her and I'm supposed to believe that the WWE is going to have faith to crown her the champion?

The movie wasn't that long so they definitely could have spent more time telling her story in the NXT (which was a pretty big deal reading the comments here).

level 2

It also doesn't make any sense. The outcome of the fight is known before it happens. Her being amazed that she won is non-sense.

level 3

I took it as her being nervous that she’d botch the performance, make a mistake, or be shunned by the crowd. The surprise was that she pulled it off.

level 3

This is what I came away from the movie confused about. In the rest of the movie it's no secret that the wrestling is staged, but weirdly that's totally forgotten with the WWE championship match? Especially with the phone call with her brother (I can see why they did it for the plot, but still) before the match and then her surprised reaction.

I almost think I missed something though? Because it just seems like too big/obvious a plot hole.

level 4

As a wrestling fan, I think it made sense. The question in her mind was not could she beat AJ Lee. It was if she would choke and botch the match. Basically, could she hang with the champion and deliver a good promo and match?

There is also the overwhelming feeling of an entire crowd and even the world cheering for you as you are handed the highest honor in the company. Carrying the title means that the company has so much faith in you that they trust you to be the face of the company. Even if you know it is coming, I am guessing that it can be pretty mind-blowing to be awarded something you have dreamed of your whole life.

However, I have to admit I was geeking out at seeing Zelina Vega on the big screen, so I might have missed something.

level 4

I think they probably had a tough time figuring out how to in-movie tell Saraya she’s winning w/on spoiling the match for non fans. Without that though, to me, as a fan, I picked up on the nervousness as a real deal regardless of if she knows she’s gonna win. Same with the phone call to the brother; WWE can book you to the moon, but if the fans aren’t into you that’s really gonna hamper your Reigns.

Edit - also IRL Saraya was super emotional I’m pretty sure winning the title; even if she knew it was coming, the spotlight and moments and fans just easily fuel that as a realistic reaction

level 2

Yeah they really neutered NXT for the sake of the film, but then again at that time it wasn't too mainstream even for WWE fans. She was the NXT Women's Champion when she debuted on Raw and won the Diva's Championship, and while it (and she) was known, I can see them focusing a bit less on it to make the focus of the movie about her getting to the real "mountain top".

level 3

They could have used it as a stepping stone. Like make it where Vince Vaughn tells the NXT people that whoever wins the NXT Championship gets to go on and fight in Raw. Then when she gets the NXT belt, do the whole Wrestlemani Rock tells her she’s going to fight for the Divas’ belt.

level 2

Isn't her winning in her first apperance in the WWE what happened in real life?

level 3

Yes, but from reading here and on Wikipedia she had a storied stay in the NXT that garnered her a lot of fan support and wasn't just some star-struck kid who had only ever performed well on the mic in the gym.

level 4

they probably could have cut those tire flipping scenes for scenes of struggle/personal triumph that would have left room to show her getting a bigger following

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